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  • #1950

    Liou Bian songwriting journal

  • #2076

    Liou Bian
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    Idea using inverse chords

    I’d like to add a melody to it, and maybe try to add 1 more harmonic sections to it as well. Any feedback is welcome, feel free to share your thoughts thanks!

    • This reply was modified 10 months, 2 weeks ago by  Liou Bian. Reason: adding description
  • #2078

    Liou Bian
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    adding better recording of tune above here

  • #2090

    Hi Liou. Great work. I like how this transitions half way through to higher voicings and how you then change chords but retain the same melody note on top.

    Plenty of ways to approach writing melodies – but this is already showing development.

  • #2092

    Do you also have a note of what these chords are?

  • #2164

    Liou Bian
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    Inverse chords’ tune:
    Dm A G A
    Dm A G Gm A
    Dm C F C
    Dm (with descending root down to A) A5

  • #2165

    Liou Bian
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    Melodies with 2 chords exercise
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/tdimb07g5w960dg/Melody%202%20chord%20exercise.mp3?dl=0

    chords: Cm – G
    first one starting from the 6th
    second one starting from the 2nd
    third one starting from the 4th

    2 questions:

    I tried to start the melody when second chord would start with the equivalent intervals of the second chord, but still using the scale of C minor. Is that correct?

    I was unsure if I should finish, or start with the interval used for each exercise in the second chord. I don’t play much melody everytime when the second chord plays because of this indecision.

    being the 2 chords a bit slow paced, I felt like the need to put more notes, but tried to keep it simple

  • #2166

    Hi Liou
    this has some nice atmosphere. When it comes to the second chord, you are correct that you want the note to be in relation to that chord (this is how your ear will interpret it anyway). You don’t need to use a C minor scale necessarily. C minor will differ from G major in having the notes of Eb and Bb – Bb sounds tense against G major as it is the minor third of G. You probably want to avoid that – in the example above, your ‘featured’ notes sound atmospheric, but that minor third against the G major chord sounds a bit less deliberate and it might be harder to make that level of tension work.
    Keeping it simple is excellent at this stage. We really want to hear what the shape of the melody is. Imagine if someone was singing this and you’ll be along the right lines.

  • #2169

    Liou Bian
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    5/4 exercise

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/yziztkvbttceu1d/5-4%20fingerpick.m4a?dl=0

    Half-cheated this one, stumbled upon an acoustic guitar song that has a section on 5/4 and I simply tried to emulate his fingerpicking pattern with a different harmony, but it got me to practice this rhythm so I thought I’d post it anyway

  • #2175

    Liou Bian
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    Simple tune built on top of the 5/4 exercise with rhythm ideas – it’s starting to get interesting, I’ll keep building on top of it!

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/6eqxj28d4pc5tfn/SPOF_v0.mp3?dl=0

  • #2176

    This sounds great! I like the changes in the layers as you go along. It works fine as it is, but if you did want to extend it, what would some of your possibilities be?

  • #2256

    Liou Bian
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    Object writing

    To not clutter the forum, all my object writing will be in this google doc:

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/15OTQPx0RCsd2laS_7ebkaDgLvhS4TKQN0yvbznqQs1w/edit?usp=sharing

  • #2257

    Liou Bian
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    progress update to 5/4 song – implemented change to 4/4 around the end – not bad! https://www.dropbox.com/s/rba353ism1s18o6/SPOF_v0_8.mp3?dl=0

  • #2270

    Good experimenting with the changes in rhythm. One thing you might also want to do with that arrangement is think about where the builds and dips are, and exaggerate them. It’s very tempting with a textural arrangement which uses loops to add elements on top of one another, and this can be effective, but we soon start to ‘tune out’ things that are repeating. It can be very effecting removing some elements as the composition progresses so that you are deliberate about what elements of the musical material you are foregrounding at any one time. Another way of developing it would be to introduce further harmonic change – so some different chords.

    For the object writing, you have made a good start, and you can see that any one idea can trigger a lot of associations. From every one of those associations, you can go on to develop more material. One thing which will help is to write the senses at the top of each heading, so

  • #2379

    Liou Bian
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    added new section and melody with it.

    Temporarily put drums to get build up, but not too sure about it, it’s like there only for 10 seconds in the song, doesn’t feel quite right?

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/uumch89jomea464/SPOF_v0_95.mp3?dl=0

    just re-listened, I think I’m going to make another chord progression after my melody of the final section to have it close properly

    • This reply was modified 6 months, 3 weeks ago by  Liou Bian.
  • #2393

    Liou Bian
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    Ok that’s me done – just adjusted volumes a tiny bit here and there and added some echoes in the final section

  • #2404

    Liou Bian
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  • #2406

    Liou Bian
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    A complete first version of the lyrics

    A
    Snow is turning into ice
    It’s all that I can see
    Wind is howling in the void
    Black glaciers waiting me to sleep
    I’m shaking
    This bleached-out silence
    Is burning
    Wishes and apologies
    Are wounding

    B
    Old frames are shrinking
    Buzzes and green pixels, they haunt me
    Dreams keep getting mixed up with reality
    For self-defense
    For self-defense

    A
    For self-defense
    Hallucinations of a spring
    Are warming
    Blue ocean and red rays
    Are floating
    Wrong melodies and fear of lost relief
    Are melting

    B
    Old frames are shrinking
    Buzzes and green pixels, they haunt me
    Dreams keep getting mixed up with reality
    For self-defense
    For self-defense

  • #2407

    Liou Bian
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    guitar and vocals rough recording: https://www.dropbox.com/s/s98emhkex35oxyu/DTOW.m4a?dl=0

  • #2459

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