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September 26, 2017 at 2:34 pm #1959Diana de CabarrusKeymaster
Matthew Wheavil songwriting journal
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October 9, 2017 at 7:28 pm #2086AnonymousInactive
Changing KEY
Working Example: (Changing from Key of G to D)
Bm, Em, C, Am
Bm, Em, C, A,
Bm, G, D, A1. G, Am, Em, C ~ Have melody for this but difficult to match it to next part
G Am, Em, C
The wilting flower, slowly grows again
The cloudy skies, are looking brighter now
Stormy seas, are calming to a breezeSounds Like it works (Changing from Key of C to F)
2. C, Dm, Am, F <Thought this was a change of key from 1. then realised G & C share these chords…
3. C, Dm Am, G
4. Bb, Am, Dm, C <Switches from V chord of C to I chord of F(Switching from V chord to I chord of next key?)
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October 9, 2017 at 8:13 pm #2088AnonymousInactive
1st song I ever wrote appears to have a key change ( A to C ? ) – Not sure why it works:
1. Bm, E, A
2. Bm, A, E, F#m, A, D
3. Dm, C, Am, G
4. Am, G, C, F
5. F#m, D, A, E
– 17 year old Matt is smarter than 30 year old Matt 😉
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October 10, 2017 at 9:13 am #2091Diana de CabarrusKeymaster
HI Matt,
good work entering this. Do you use dropbox? A short recording is always good too.
You’re correct that part 1 above and part 2 could both be in C. Don’t worry if the first attempt at transitioning doesn’t sound great – doing this activity multiple times is what will generate sufficient material for you to pull out progressions and transitions you really like. -
October 15, 2017 at 5:20 pm #2162AnonymousInactive
Tried doing rhythm by counting
1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 1
Came up with this idea: https://vocaroo.com/i/s0QXInv5NOUq
And tried a vocal too (lyrics made up on the spot): https://vocaroo.com/i/s0A3Eoo9b8LQ
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November 3, 2017 at 4:56 pm #2181AnonymousInactive
Actually came up with an idea for a Gravedigger song:
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1yZHHz8z4ri
The melody came to me in the shower and then I recorded a meek version on my phone while walking down the street, and just now tried putting it to guitar.
Here’s Duke Special’s Grave Digging song which is pretty epic:
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November 5, 2017 at 7:10 pm #2195AnonymousInactive
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1oZ3PCLsSfN
Changed key for gravedigger and def sounds better – could be some potential in this. And that verse is a melodic motif I think – if simple
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November 6, 2017 at 6:39 pm #2197AnonymousInactive
Here’s a song I wrote with a band when I was a teenager – I can’t remember all the lyrics, hence repetition. But always thought this has great melodic potential. Particularly the outro. It’s emo but whatevs
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November 7, 2017 at 4:46 pm #2219Diana de CabarrusKeymaster
Good to be gathering your thoughts. The evolution of gravedigger is exactly the kind of thing you want to be trying out.
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November 11, 2017 at 7:30 pm #2229AnonymousInactive
So this is an old tune that I just sang over a d chord – like so
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0rpVK4608PV
I tried varying the chords following the 3rd and 5th of D (so A and Bm) and this was the result:
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1O21kD9IrJS
Think D, Bm, G, A also works and it is interesting how it gives the melody a different feel – more of a tone of acceptance perhaps?
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November 11, 2017 at 7:48 pm #2230AnonymousInactive
Here is a version with a G chord in it – though I think I changed up the rhythm and melody a bit too
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November 14, 2017 at 5:15 pm #2245Diana de CabarrusKeymaster
HI Matt,
good to see you have been experimenting with this. How many different versions can you create? sometimes using the same chords but changing more frequently is very effective, especially if we’ve heard it another way first. -
November 16, 2017 at 9:02 pm #2249AnonymousInactive
Airport
Waiting
Plane
Sky
Clouds
People
Holiday
Travel
Family
Home
Hope
Fear
Love
Flying
Beautiful day
Walk on
All that you can’t leave behind
Suitcase
Luggage
Heart
Delays
Easyjet
Terrorism
Security
Departure
Arrival
Memories
Missed opportunities
Random meetings
Magazines
Distractions
Connections
Distance
Wheels
Landing
Fuelling
Friends
Countries
Ryanair
British airways
Travel insurance
Conveyor belt
Parking
Charges
Duty free
WH smith
Books
Newspapers
Strangers
Unknown
Familiarity
Faith
Miracle
Patience
Impatience
Wings
Cabin crew
Parachute
Life jackets
Stowed
Brace position
Seat belts
Prepare for landing
Take off
Time zones
Crap food
Limbo
Cities
Languages
Accents
Guides
Lost and found
Passport
Tickets
Identity
Nations
Diversity
Decisions
Choices
Directions
Beliefs
9/11
Exaggeration
Safety
Propelling
Lifting
Seats
Shops
Toblerone
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November 16, 2017 at 9:44 pm #2250AnonymousInactive
Right after doing this exercise I was like “Right, let’s write a song about an airport” and this is what I came up with in less than an hour:
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1Klsi5kG6V0
Not bad at all!
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November 16, 2017 at 11:07 pm #2252Diana de CabarrusKeymaster
Hi Matt,
Glad to see you making use of this technique and getting results with it.
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November 17, 2017 at 7:01 pm #2255AnonymousInactive
those lyrics were really cool Matt!!!! 😀 looking forward to more of these
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